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Ok! Thanks Sangyne! Thanks for the offer on the redlines, I'd appreciate it! And yes, the !? picture is the cutest of the bunch.

It's weird (to some people), but I really don't like cats; I like the lizard-look on a dragon. As for the wings, I'm not sure what kind of animal would have wings like the ones I like. If you have any ideas on the wings, I'd like to know. Also, do you know of any pics of stone floors or something like that? I'll Google it but if you have any I'd love to see!

Hey Hydra! It's Weasl.

I redlined your ADORABLE picture a little here, if you dont mind. I wanted to help you just a tad with your dragon anatomy.

I've redlined what the skeleton might look like. Here, the redlines show the major/important bones you sketch out when you draw. A head that tapers down, the long, flexible spine, a ribcage, and then the front and back legs, (which are there in the redline). Here's a reference that helps me out: http://visual.merriam-webster.com/images/animal-kingdom/carnivorous-mammals/dog/skeleton-dog.jpg
It's a perfect thing to study. Test yourself, on a blank peace of paper, to see if you can roughly sketch out a skeleton without looking at the reference. Then compare a reference (like the one i liked, or some other bone structure that suits you) to your drawing,and see what you need to work on. Do this often, then you'll know an animals build-up well in no time (This is how I practice) You can do this also with muscles, and anytihng you want to improve. Because anatomy isn't just the skeleton, it's everything about the body, etc., right? But this is justhow I think you could start out.

And I saw that you don't really like using cat anatomy, and that you like a more "lizard-like" dragon. I thought about what anatomy you could use. And I thought of the perfect one: Dinosaurs! A good amount have a sleek-like body,a lean, but equally muscular built body, and pretty much the same bone structure as mammals, wellalmost.(I reference off canine anatomy myself) I would recoment using the front legs of a cat/dog though, so that they look a bit more "dragon-like"

Hope I could help You've got so much motivation and patience, and, trust me, this'll help you a lot with you art. keep up the amazing art work, Hydra

Thanks weasl! The wing was suposed to be bent over though, not straight up and down... But thanks for the redlines anyway! I can't change anything that was on that page because it was all done in pen. Well I have a lot to do today (Dad is home and he wants to do a lot. lol) but if I find some time I'll see if I can find a good picture of some dinosaur skeleton. I'll post as soon as I can!

I think I'm ready to ink this. If any of you think I should change something, say now! If I don't get anything by tomorrow or Saturday I'll just go ahead and ink it.



Do you think I should put some vines on the pillars in the backround?

No worries Kiddo, I got some Red's for ya! {Sorry I've become accustomed to calling people Kiddo now x} }

I haven't done much perspection drawings like this one, but I tried to my best to make it work, ^^



Hope it helps out! By the way, Tail looks wrong to me, But it's really up to you how you put it, I think letting it trail back into space would work. Also, when you do a picture like this where the background fades back you want to have a "Vanishing Point" http://www.detaildesignonline.com/technical_drawing/235 <-Explains a Vanishing point Hope it helps!

I can see how the tail could be a bit painful. The inking is done so I can't change anything from now on.



I think it looks better, thanks to Sangyne's great redlining! I'll start the coloring sometime soon!

No problem! ^^'

I'm not great with claws and fingers, but for your next piece, try looking at different claws/paws of lizards, since you like the serpentine body-type, I'd suggest looking at Lizard's toes and claws, it will help you when you are drawing them. When you draw arms and limbs, Really pay attention, they can get really tricky, you don't want them to look all fat and bloated, Making them more realistic works, also, another way to make them seem like they are not huge hunking bubbles, is to draw muscles! Muscle tones are awesome! Look up differnet' muscles of animals, also, the human body as well works too. Our legs and joints bend much the same as a Dragon's does.{No really, think about it! I'm being serious.} Our front arms bend like a Dragon's forearms bend, If we had one extra joint in our legs, they would bend the same as a Dragons! We used to have a tail x} Till it went away {Cries} And the neck of a dragon is larger, but the same rules apply, there is a spine, bones, and veins. The chest and the stomach also, the chest is normally larger than the stomach.

So yea x} Our bodies are good refrence for a Dragon's as well, just.. don't be an idiot and pose so you get the idea of what the dragon should look like, just look at your arms, or something, to get an idea of how the dragon's would look like!

Ok, thanks again Sangyne!

Anytime!